tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2512063301107984348.post3509110449023243721..comments2024-03-09T10:04:47.123+01:00Comments on Miraculous Rosary: Synod: Immutable Doctrine vs. Pastoral CareUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2512063301107984348.post-23576736682616208462014-10-12T16:33:10.260+02:002014-10-12T16:33:10.260+02:00I agree that dogma is a subset of doctrine. Dogma...I agree that dogma is a subset of doctrine. Dogma can never be changed. While the dogma part of doctrine cannot be changed, and Canon Law must be believed and followed, the area that becomes a bit more flexible is theological opinions about which the Church has not made a formal teaching. Catholics are free to agree or interpret in their own way this portion of doctrine, so long as it does not contradict Church teaching. Theological opinion can become dogma when the Church makes a formal pronouncement on it. You are correct that my statement doesn't make this clear,and I will edit it to make it more properly stated. Thank you Tim. Loveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11338592200362762104noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2512063301107984348.post-49531895071715442692014-10-12T16:24:16.447+02:002014-10-12T16:24:16.447+02:00I agree Regina! It is complicated and faith can re...I agree Regina! It is complicated and faith can really be so simple if we pray and worship! However, there are two sides of the fence that I'm trying to address. First, those who think a pope can simply "change" the beliefs of the Church, and those others who believe we should go back to the old days and the Church should not progress forward. Knowing a bit about how it all works helps us understand the task in front of the Bishops and Cardinals. Loveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11338592200362762104noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2512063301107984348.post-17081284052823470592014-10-12T13:27:48.478+02:002014-10-12T13:27:48.478+02:00All these complicated terms such as dogma/doctrine...All these complicated terms such as dogma/doctrine!?... Personally I believe, and it is opinion if I may post, an important issue for practicing Catholic is to know about sin, prayer, worship. yet those ARE given by dogma and or doctrine.<br /><br />We must continue to pray for the leaders of our Church, for our parish priests... we can even adopt our parish priest in special assigned timed prayer just for them.<br /><br />Of course we must pray for our Pope, even if or when we do not agree or understand him. He is now given to us and that is all we need to know.<br />with blessings<br />Regina Regina Barzykhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15949745385197316522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2512063301107984348.post-22539295889897062242014-10-12T08:53:45.264+02:002014-10-12T08:53:45.264+02:00Doctrine is not something that can be "altere...Doctrine is not something that can be "altered" as you suggest. Doctrine as Colin Donovan of the EWTN explained in my original post includes dogma. Dogma in a sense is a subset of doctrine. If it could be altered it would not be truth. <br /><br />Tim StuartAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2512063301107984348.post-59079683537680714192014-10-12T06:39:52.032+02:002014-10-12T06:39:52.032+02:00Correction: I wrote in the second line, "...s...Correction: I wrote in the second line, "...so long as the doctrine that binds it is adhered to," but that should read, "...so long as the DOGMA that binds it is adhered to."Loveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11338592200362762104noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2512063301107984348.post-26301556555502579602014-10-12T06:38:38.125+02:002014-10-12T06:38:38.125+02:00In my limited understanding, Dogma does not change...In my limited understanding, Dogma does not change. Canon Law can change if it does not require contradicting dogma. Theology that forms doctrine can be altered so long as the doctrine that binds it is adhered to. Although the methods of pastoral care associated with doctrine can be altered, all Catholics are bound to believe doctrine if and until such a time that it is altered. In other words, Catholics are indeed bound to believe and obey dogma as well as doctrine, but doctrine can be altered so long as it does not contradict the immutable dogma. If any of what I understand is incorrect, please clarify. Loveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11338592200362762104noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2512063301107984348.post-59091711106102933012014-10-12T06:33:35.718+02:002014-10-12T06:33:35.718+02:00Limbo was never Catholic dogma or doctrine. The fa...Limbo was never Catholic dogma or doctrine. The fate of unbaptized infants had been a topic of debate for centuries. St. Augustine offered his own explanation and much later, St. Thomas Aquinas more fully defined the idea of a place called "Limbo." However, it was never a defined doctrine which binds a Catholic to belief. It is a theological view that Catholics can freely choose to accept or reject.Loveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11338592200362762104noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2512063301107984348.post-63978840399015767682014-10-12T00:33:24.194+02:002014-10-12T00:33:24.194+02:00".. Purgatory is a Catholic dogma.." Lim...".. Purgatory is a Catholic dogma.." Limbo for children dead before coming into the world, was a dogma, like Hell or Heaven.<br /><br /><br />Even so, Limbo was removed from the dogma....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com