The Maria Divine Mercy message of Friday, May 24, 2013 makes direct reference to the article I wrote HERE that the MDM messages are fomenting schism. Are they really trying to sell the idea that Jesus reads blogs? Dear Catholics, these messages are fake and designed to promote some sort of schism that will lead you away from the true Holy Catholic Church founded by Jesus Himself, about which He said that the very gates of helll shall not prevail against it. Here is the text of MDM's message:
Those who scream at My Word in anger and declare that It comes from Satan will reside with the beast for eternity
My dearly beloved daughter, everywhere My Voice is heard, in every place, and in every temple dedicated to the adoration of God, there will be disruption. While many will pay homage to Me, to My Teachings, to My Church, when they hear My Voice, as It commands attention now, they will cover their ears.My Voice will fall on deaf and stubborn souls. My Voice, My Word and My Call will be angrily rejected and spit out, as I Am persecuted for the last time on Earth. This is the final calling to draw God’s children into My Bosom, before My Second Coming and yet, many people, confused by the lies spread by demons, will turn away and reject My Mercy.
I will once again be rejected by those who reside in the House of God, the priests and all those who do not accept the Truth. The final insult to My Name will be seen by all of you shortly. Those of you who cover your eyes and walk around with blindfolds on your eyes will, eventually, see the Truth as it is being given to you at this time.
I cannot create schism within My Church, for then I would be denying Myself. My Body is the Church and It can never die, but It will be those within it, who will reject Me. Just as I was rejected the first time, they will, this time, try to destroy Me, before I come to bring the final salvation promised to man.
Man is weak. Man is ignorant and is not worthy of My Mercy. Man is stubborn. Man was given the Truth during My Time on earth, but still does not understand My Promise. My Return, in the Second Coming will be precipitated by the rejection of My final prophet. The prophet which has been sent to give you the final Word of God in order to prepare your souls, will suffer harshly. It is Me, Jesus Christ, you slander when you mock My Holy Word given to God’s prophet. It is the Word of God, which is being given to prepare you for the battle with the antichrist, which you reject. By doing so, you destroy souls. You prevent these souls from entering My Paradise.
Those who say evil things about My Messages cannot justify their resentment, their anger or their logic, for they are full of error, which is born of the sin of pride. Soon the Truth will be difficult to discern from the lies by the new world organisation, which will present the pagan new world religion.
If you do not listen to Me now, you will be bullied into accept this evil substitute. It will be dressed in a glittering, gold exterior. It will impress even the most devout amongst you and it will twist your allegiance to Me and will be admired by all. This is the religion which will convert atheists into believing in a great lie. No peace will come to those who follow this pagan abomination. Fear and loathing for each other will be manifested, where brother will fight brother and where the human race will be divided into two. One half will accept the twisted truth of this new world religion, which will be presided over by many churches, many faiths, as well as a large part of the Catholic Church. The other half will consist of those who truly love Me and who will remain faithful to the Truth.
When you do not accept the Truth – the Truth contained in the Holy Bible – you will live a lie. You will have no love left in your soul for Me if you accept the lies which will be fed to you.
And while My Word may seem like heresy today, as it was during My times on Earth, many of you will devour these Messages when you are starved of the Truth, when the antichrist will control your nations. You will crawl on your stomachs and scream out for Me. You, who blasphemed against Me, will want to cut out your tongues, for you will realise then how your words have insulted Me. I await this day patiently, but should you stand before Me and prevent Me from reaching out to souls, I will cut you down. Should you continue to blaspheme against Me, by declaring My Messages to be the work of the devil, then you will never be forgiven. For this is the greatest sin against God.
Remember that I come to God’s children this final time in order to fulfil My Father’s Covenant. His Will, can now be done on Earth as it is in Heaven. Not one amongst you can stop this from happening. Not one amongst you, though some of you hate Me, can prevent My Second Coming. Those who scream at My Word in anger and declare that it comes from Satan will reside with the beast for eternity.
Your Jesus
The height of arrogancy to think this is about you or this silly blog
ReplyDeleteWell, I - a Roman Catholic sinner who try to pick up my Cross daily & follow My Spouse Jesus Christ in His One Holy Catholic & Apostolic Church - am appalled at the heresy of "MDM" & I thank you & "MDMTrueorFalse" for bringing this ploy of the enemy to the fore. GOD ALONE IS OMNIPOTENT! AMDG.
ReplyDeleteCompare the message of MDM from May 24 with an earlier message this month. It is blatantly obvious, that this is not the traditional Jesus of Sacred Scripture but an impostor who comes in the name of Jesus. Jesus is absolutely not going to condemn any member of the People of the New Covenant for abiding by the Catholic Church which He established and following a legitimately elected successor to Peter who still holds the keys to the kingdom.
ReplyDeleteThe false Jesus says, "You will crawl on your stomachs and scream out for Me. You, who blasphemed against Me, will want to cut out your tongues, for you will realise then how your words have insulted Me. I await this day patiently, but should you stand before Me and prevent Me from reaching out to souls, I will cut you down. Should you continue to blaspheme against Me, by declaring My Messages to be the work of the devil, then you will never be forgiven. For this is the greatest sin against God."
Take careful note of this same false prophet who has come in the name of Jesus,
“TO THOSE of you who claim to SPEAK with great knowledge of Me and then spit with a cursed tongue AGAINST MY PROPHET– know this. Your faith will not save you when you curse the Word of God. Your self-proclaimed love of God is meaningless when you judge one of His children before Him. You are cutting the umbilical cord, which binds you to My Father, when you show disrespect, anger and hatred towards Me. {bolded here in the original} When you spit at Me, YOU WILL BECOME BLIND and will never see again. When you utter words of hatred, YOUR TONGUE WILL BE CUT OUT. When you stand up and declare to all your self-proclaimed knowledge of God, you will fall with YOUR LEGS CUT FROM UNDER YOU. When you deem My prophet to be evil, YOU WILL HAVE NO LIFE.” {emphasis and bold added by Pocketsketch}
“It was the Sin of Pride Which Caused Lucifer to be Cut Off and Thrown Into the Abyss” [Jesus] to Marie Divine Mercy, May 4, 2013
Did you notice my posting on May 6 @ 11:50 was followed by one of W2C’s most vehement attacks yet? Has anyone ever found the name “Lucifer” ever mentioned before on that website? Strange how it turned up in their very title shortly afterwards, “It was the sin of pride which caused LUCIFER to fall and to be cut off and thrown into the abyss”
ReplyDeleteOriginal post on the Miraculous Rosary Blog May 6 by PocketSketch:
“The spirit of rebellion and disobedience is the hallmark signature of Lucifer. This rock has proven to be a stumbling block under whose weight MDM is crushed. Her words are dust. They will not endure forever, for everything must crumble that is not grounded on the one corner stone which is Christ Jesus.”
Reaction fro the Warning 2nd Coming website the next day. Disregard the fake date May 4.
“MY WORD WILL NEVER DIE; IT WILL LIVE FOR ETERNITY. IT WILL TRAMPLE ON THOSE SINNERS WHO TRY TO DEFY . . . THESE MESSAGES.”
Parallels
#1. Lucifer
#2. The word “trample” synonymous with “crushed.”
#3. “Her words are dust. They will not endure forever.” In contrast, MDM argues “My Word will never die; it will endure for eternity.”
Amazing PocketSketch... I doubt it's coincidence
DeleteIt is alleged as well as disputed that Pope Urban VIII said: " It is better to believe than not to believe, for if you believe and it is proven true, you will be happy that you believed because Our Holy Mother asked it. If you believe and it should be proven false, you will receive all blessing as if it had been true, because you believed it to be true." ...i.e. FAITH. This was allegedly given when he was Pope in 1623 to 1644. People felt the same way about all of the visionaries of the past there is nothing wrong with being careful, it is not a sin, but being uncharitable and speaking badly of another person regardless of their actions/beliefs is not good. That is between the person and God. We should forgive one another and love one another, not tear each other down. Ultimately it is the sentiment of this alleged statement (above) that is profound and meaningful, and should be taken to heart here. Nobody here will convince those who believe in the messages given to MDM, that they are false, and nobody who believes the messages are false, will convince anybody here that they are true. Time will tell and only God will be the judge and arbiter of what is true. The tone on this blog is hardly becoming of the title "Miraculous Rosary". It also seems disingenuous to offer the comment, "I will pray for you" when the real motivation here on either side of the coin, seems to be to prove each other wrong, not a sincere pursuit of the truth. There also seems to be an utter denial of prophecy from many sources that speaks to what will happen to what I would call the "Church Administration" in Rome, because ultimately, the Body of Christ (Church) will prevail. Can anyone deny the rot and corruption in the Vatican? A Canonical lawyer is not needed to tell anyone there is a schism already, and that we have been warned over and over by our Blessed Mother, but nobody is or has listened.
ReplyDeleteIt is indeed alleged that Pope Urban said, "It is better to believe than not to believe, for if you believe and it is proven true, you will be happy that you believed because Our Holy Mother asked it. If you believe and it should be proven false, you will receive all blessing as if it had been true, because you believed it to be true," however, he was referring at the time to a revelation being investigated and was NOT speaking for all private revelations for all time. Also, if there were heretical messages in the revelation of which he was speaking, would he have said the same thing?
DeleteI wonder what Pope Urban VIII would have said if the revelation under investigation called him "the imposter, "the anti-christ," "the abomination", someone who "stole the Seat of Peter." To believe and act upon such things is to break Canon Law and put oneself in a state of schism from the Church. Satan is laughing.
Isn't it enough that the Conference of Slovakian Bishops, the Bishop of Melbourne, the Bishop of Brisbane, and the Bishop of Salzburg all put out warnings against the messages of MDM? Each one of them called the messages false and told the faithful in their dioceses not to share or disseminate the messages.
Considering the "seer" is anonymously spreading these false messages over the worldwide web for all to see in numerous languages means that ALL bishops should guide their sheep in staying away from such heresy found at their fingertips.I don't know what the status of her own bishop is. I can only hope he is collecting information in order to make a decision.
With hundreds of messages, many contradictory, many heretical, many displaying an angry Jesus who threatens things such as cutting the tongues out of disbelievers (of the messages), I'd say it's time Catholics back away and turn back to the rich majesty of the Church.
How many MDM followers will join Pope Francis in his worldwide adoration of the Blessed Sacramament at 5:00 p.m. Rome time, June 2? How many of you will ignore it because you follow MDM and think he is an "imposter" who is going to "do away with the eucharist"?
Pray the rosary.
Reply to Anon. June 2: You are right. Positions on both sides have hardened. You are wrong, however, to contend that contributors on the Miraculous Rosary site are not in search of truth. Rather than make personal attacks why don't you try to think for yourself and answer the many disputed points of Catholic doctrine which MDM has brought into doubt? You don't because you can't. How about the recent teaching from MDM that Satan can still tempt souls after death? We have presented the Catholic catechism as the sure norm of truth and a good Catholic can not refute a single teaching without falling into heresy, apostasy or schism. Rather a tough position MDM has put you in.
DeleteGod knows with how much diligence many have worked, prayed and studied in the pursuit of truth and in an effort to encourage people to face the dangerous errors, teachings and heresies issuing forth from the WSC website. Have you read the prophecies of the Little Pebble from Australia? Were you a victim of the seer Veronica Leuken of Bayside, N.Y.? How many poisonous prophets have you allowed to vitiate your faith because your insatiable curiosity led you into realms of prophecy too far to be safe? Do your children and grand children want to have any part of the Catholic Church because all their lives all they ever heard in their homes was criticism of this bishop, that priest, that pope, that liturgical abuse and so on and so forth? How many times and for how many years were your children forced to listen to your prophecies of the Warning, the Tribulation or the Chastisement? Did you steal their hope? Did you deprive your children of meaningful lives because you stole their youthful hopes and dreams? Don't you think God meant us to do something more with our lives then sit around kitchen tables and act like busybodies on the phone predicting end of the world scenarios?
There is no time for a wait and see attitude. Anonymous Internet hucksters are selling their lies to hungry lambs prepared to swallow any vomit the prince of darkness hurls at them. It is an obscenity for anyone to follow a ego-maniacal prophet who in the name of Jesus says disbelievers of MDM will crawl to him on their stomachs begging for mercy but will never receive forgiveness. It is more than obscenity; it is blasphemy to attribute such outrageous diatribes to Divine Mercy. Shame on you. You have betrayed the Lord. You have sold your souls for cheap dime store novelties. Time is too short to "wait and see."
Reply to Anon. June 2: Unguarded souls willing throw caution to the wind because many books of prophecy they read are all prefaced with a guarantee from Pope Urban of reward to believers regardless of the bishop’s decision to approve a seer or not. Well, here is another quotation from an even more recent pope and one highly esteemed by many good Catholics even today. In point of fact, he is a saint. This should strike fear into your hearts for he makes a pronouncement which is most explicit.
Delete“The gates of hell will not prevail over this [Peter's] confession, the chains of death will not bind it: for these words are words of life. And AS THEY RAISE TO HEAVEN THOSE WHO CONFESS THEM, THEY PLUNGE TO HELL THOSE WHO DENY THEM. For this reason it is said to blessed Peter: I will give to you the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven.” St. Leo the Great
Dare anyone continue to read, repeat or propagate the prophecies of MDM now? Why not take the traditional Jesus of Sacred Scripture at His word when He prophesied, “the gates of hell will not prevail”? (Mat.16:18) After all, isn’t He the one who proved His love by exposing Himself to die naked on the Cross? What has MDM done to prove herself? She won’t even come out of hiding.
Her power and influence is zealously concealed behind a powerful web service designed to conceal, protect and monitor all Internet criticism. Is it just possible, she is conducting a huge experiment just to see how many, how fast and how furiously she can command little people to run around like mice and nibble at all the rewards she so carefully lays out in her labyrinth stations only to deliver electrical shocks when they don’t behave according to her dictates? Apostles of MDM, do you really want to be her helpless little rodents to play with? Put on the cloak of Christ and burn the cloak of MDM. It is infested.
“Should you continue to blaspheme against Me, by declaring My Messages to be the work of the devil, then you will never be forgiven. For this is the greatest sin against God. . . Those who scream at My Word in anger and declare that it comes from Satan will reside with the beast for eternity.” {Jesus} through MDM, May 24, 2013
ReplyDeleteCompare with an earlier message which says the opposite.
“Don’t you know that I would never punish you for not accepting these Messages,...I Am your Saviour and I would never cast you aside...come to Me, free of pride and with an open and clear conscience” Ap.19,2013
The Jesus of MDM appears to have a split personality disorder.
Who does a Catholic owe obedience to? If one hesitates to choose between the teaching of MDM and her “Book of Truth” or the teaching of the Church and Sacred Scripture the choice should be clear:
ReplyDelete“ Having become a member of the Church, the person baptized belongs no longer to himself, but to Him who died and rose for us. From now on, he is called to be subject to others, to serve them in the communion of the Church, and to "obey and submit" to the Church's leaders, (Heb.13:17) holding them in respect and affection.” (Eph 5:21; 1 Cor 16:15-16; 1 Thess 5:12-13; Jn 13:12-15) Catechism of the Catholic Church no.1269
“Obey your leaders and defer to them, for they keep watch over you and will have to give an account, that they may fulfill their task with joy and not with sorrow, for that would be of no advantage to you.” Hebrews 13: 17
The scripture also warns us with tears and pleading to beware of false prophets who come presenting themselves as true prophets to deceive and lead away the flock. Paul taught the church to even be wary of the apostles themselves including himself.
DeleteGalatians 1:8
But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
Godly instructions of obedience have limits as even common sense should tell us. If it were not so then we would all be Arians as it was a movement of the laity against the bishops of the day which finally overthrew the heresy of Arianism.
I am not endorsing MDM. I am saying "Watch and observe" before making a final judgement. Do not let suspicion of prophecies rule out the possibility that one day in the future a false prophet will arise who will claim to be Pope and will be regarded as Pope by the masses. That day might not be today, but then again, one day it will be today and this might just well be the day as MDM claims.
Your post rules out that such a day will ever come which is why you are wide open to deception.
Reply to Anon. July 9,@ 2:03 am,
DeleteVery clever take on St. Paul. Nevertheless, in it’s proper context St. Paul said, “I AM AMAZED THAT YOU ARE SO QUICKLY FORSAKING THE ONE WHO CALLED YOU BY THE GRACE OF CHRIST FOR A DIFFERENT GOSPEL (NOT THAT THERE IS ANOTHER). BUT THERE ARE SOME WHO ARE DISTURBING YOU AND WISH TO PERVERT THE GOSPEL OF CHRIST.” (Gal.1:6-7) Paul was amazed that his converts to Christianity were deserting the gospel of Christ for a perverted message which is exactly what is happening with Marie DM “Books of Truth” which she promotes as new, hitherto unrevealed, divine revelation. She is "disturbing" the faithful and "perverting" the Gospel of Christ. She prophesied her book sales would rival the success of the original Holy Bible. Given her countless errors and inconsistencies with infallible Sacred Scripture (many of which have been meticulously documented and commented on) it would be foolhardy and reckless to simply “watch and observe.”
As for entertaining the notion that a pope will be the False Prophet, Catholics have a sworn oath from Jesus that guarantees He will guide His Church into all truth. God is never going to sanction in heaven an erroneous doctrinal judgement as M-DM claims. He has the power to prevent the Church from misleading the flock. The authority issue is central to Catholic faith. If a church is not infallible, it is liable to err; for there is no medium between infallibility and liability to error. If a church and her ministers are fallible in their doctrinal teaching, as Anonymous has proposed, they may be preaching falsehood to the faithful instead of truth. If that were the case, the faithful would be in doubt whether they are listening to truth or lies. If they are in doubt, they can have no faith, for faith excludes doubt, and in that state they displease God, for "without faith, it is impossible to please him" (Heb. 11:6). Faith and infallibility go hand in hand.
Therefore, Catholics are not “wide open to deception” if they build their house on “the rock.” For where Peter is, there is the Church and where the Church is, there is Christ.
The scripture also says "Despise not Prophecies". Most of what is written in these prophecies can be deduced from scripture and is therefore in line with scripture. I have been to a mass in the archdiocese of Brisbane and if such a poor mass and most atrocious homily is tolerated it shows that the archdiocese of Brisbane is overdue for a hiding from the Lord. Any wonder that the "establishment" who have been such poor shepherds should seek to hide from the judgement of the Lord.
ReplyDeleteIf every Catholic in the archdiocese of Brisbane lived by the messages and teachings of Maria Divine Mercy we would have a proper, orthodox Catholic Church which would thrive with new vocations instead of having to import priests from Africa. Lazy and slothful shepherds who have failed to feed their flock and have failed to guard after their souls as they have been charged to do.
One of the criticisms of MDM is that she prophecied the Warning in "a few months" back in 2011. Well quite frankly Our Lord is not too good on his timing even from the scriptures. In the scriptures he said "Behold I come quickly". 2000 years later he is still not here. So "a few months" is code to say "get urgent", "watch", "prepare", "for you know not the hour or the day that our Lord shall return".
Wicked shepherds who muddy the water would have us believe that the false prophet will never arise and that the beast will never make an appearance and that Rome is as pure as the driven snow until our Lord return. Foolish shepherds who herd dumb sheep. Blind shepherds leading sheep to their ruin. Such wicked men say "Our Lord delays his coming" We will eat and drink and maintain the status quo and sidle up to our friends in government." We will go to to the Rialto and do lunch and then go on to the conference". Vipers and snakes at loose in our Holy Lord's church. Drive them out with the prayers of MDM so that Holy Church may be purified.
A failed prophecy is a sign of a false prophet. When the "prophet" has to remove her prophecy from the text, there is definitely something amiss. the MDM corporation did just that.
DeleteThis is a marketing scheme, plain and simple, by people who are laughing all the way to the bank. Notice how they call them "Crusade Prayers" to mock the history of the church.
The martyrs and prophets of old who stood in complete submission to the authority of the church and faced those to whom they preached are examples of how a REAL prophet behaves.
Maria Divine Mercy (what a SILLY name, but it's GREAT for google searches) slathers her schismatic messages across the globe ANONYMOUSLY, scaring children whose parents think there is no future so they hoard food and supplies, and tells people to hide behind a "seal" which is in essence a useless piece of paper with a ridiculous looking wax seal printed on it and another of the multitudinous prayers you have to spend your days and nights reciting.
Don't be fooled.
To Anon. July 9:
ReplyDeleteVery clever take on St. Paul. Nevertheless, in it’s proper context St. Paul said, “I AM AMAZED THAT YOU ARE SO QUICKLY FORSAKING THE ONE WHO CALLED YOU BY THE GRACE OF CHRIST FOR A DIFFERENT GOSPEL (NOT THAT THERE IS ANOTHER). BUT THERE ARE SOME WHO ARE DISTURBING YOU AND WISH TO PERVERT THE GOSPEL OF CHRIST.” (Gal.1:6-7) Paul was amazed that his converts to Christianity were deserting the gospel of Christ for a perverted message which is exactly what is happening with Marie DM “Books of Truth” which she is holding out as new, hitherto unrevealed divine revelation to be made public to the world during these “end times.” She is disturbing the faithful and perverting the Gospel of Christ. She predicts her book sales will rival the success of the Holy Bible. Given her countless errors and inconsistencies with infallible Sacred Scripture (many of which have been meticulously documented and commented on) it would be foolhardy and reckless to simply “watch and observe.”
As for entertaining the notion that a pope will be the False Prophet, Catholics have a sworn oath from Jesus that guarantees He will guide His Church into all truth. God is never going to sanction in heaven an erroneous doctrinal judgement as M-DM claims. He has the power to prevent the Church from misleading the flock. The authority issue is central to Catholic faith. If a church is not infallible, it is liable to err; for there is no medium between infallibility and liability to error. If a church and her ministers are fallible in their doctrinal teaching, as Anonymous has proposed, they may be preaching falsehood to the faithful instead of truth. If that were the case, the faithful would be in doubt whether they are listening to truth or lies. If they are in doubt, they can have no faith, for faith excludes doubt, and in that state they displease God, for "without faith, it is impossible to please him" (Heb. 11:6). Faith and infallibility go hand in hand.
Therefore, Catholics are not “wide open to deception” if they build their house on “the rock.” For where Peter is, there is the Church and where the Church is, there is Christ.