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Sunday, June 30, 2013

Maria Divine Mercy, Schism! Official Negative Decision By Church - And Updates

satan comes as a wolf in sheep's clothing. To steal, kill and destroy. He will deceive the very elect.
This article, originally published on February 2, 2013, generated so many comments that the limit was reached. After continuing to study the MDM messages to compare them with Catholic beliefs and Sacred Scripture, I am even more convinced now than ever that they are false and dangerous to the soul.  Followers are encouraged to reject Pope Francis and hoard food and supplies to prepare for the "Warning" and the second coming of Christ.  A religious nun who is a follower has even encouraged people to stock up on unconsecrated hosts so that the "Remnant Army" can conduct masses in secret bunkers.  What many Catholics don't know is that by publicly rejecting the Pope and looking for fault in his every word, gesture, apparel, and action, they are violating Canon Law and placing themselves in a state of excommunication from the church. If you are a Catholic "on the fence" about these messages, run fast! THERE IS NO SIN IN REJECTING THESE MESSAGES. However, there is tremendous and dangerous sin in embracing them.  ~ Lovey

THE ARTICLE:
The Maria Divine Mercy messages are fomenting SCHISM and they are a deception of Satan! The messages started in 2010, and I discovered them on the Internet early in 2012. Being unsure of the messages coupled with my love of the Holy Catholic Church, I began a long journey of discovery through prayer, reading and listening especially to clergy and theologians, and comparing messages to Catholic doctrine. The list below continues to grow as I have bullet pointed solid arguments against the truth of these messages below.

OFFICIAL WORD ON MARIA DIVINE MERCY BY THE ARCHBISHOP OF DUBLIN under whose jurisdiction Maria Divine Mercy resides:

The Archbishop of Dublin has spoken out that the MDM messages are to be avoided by Catholics.  Her messages are officially condemned! 

The statement:


STATEMENT OF ARCHDIOCESE OF DUBLIN
ON THE ALLEGED VISIONARY “MARIA DIVINE MERCY”

Requests for clarification have been coming to the Archdiocese of Dublin concerning the authenticity of alleged visions and messages received by a person who calls herself “Maria Divine Mercy” and who may live in the Archdiocese of Dublin.

Archbishop Diarmuid Martin wishes to state that these messages and alleged visions have no ecclesiastical approval and many of the texts are in contradiction with Catholic theology.

These messages should not be promoted or made use of within Catholic Church associations.

 The source:  Click here: Statement against MDM by the Archbishop of Dublin

Opinions of other bishops, priests, and theologians: 
  • The Slovakian Conference of Bishops has condemned the Maria Divine Mercy messages as heretical. To read the full letter and an English translation, click HERE.
  • Bishop Andreas Laun, Auxiliary Bishop of Salzburg, Austria warns Catholics against the MDM messages. English translation, original text, and link to original article are HERE
  • Archbishop Coleridge of Brisbane in Australia has put out a letter warning Catholics against following or distributing the false messages of MDM. View the letter HERE
  • The Archdiocese of Melbourne, Australia has issued a warning to the faithful to its parishes about the Maria Divine Mercy messages. Article posting inquiry of full text HERE
  • Bishop Fabbro of the London diocese, (ON) Canada put out a warning against MDM in all local church bulletins. Here is the text:
    “Bishop Fabbro has been asked concerning a meeting about Maria Divine Mercy which is to take place at a house in Corunna on August 15, 2013.”

    “Maria of Divine Mercy is a woman who chooses to remain anonymous and has made claims of alleged privation revelations. Bishop Fabbro warns Catholics of the diocese that Maria of Divine Mercy has not received the Church’s approval. Indeed, Catholic bishops who have studied her teachings have declared that they are heretical and have forbidden priests to be involved with or cooperate in matters associated with Maria of Divine Mercy. Her prophecies contain material that is both false and contrary to Catholic teaching. The faithful should know that adhering to her teachings can result in grave sin.”

    “Bishop Fabbro warns Catholics that they should not be involved with Maria of Divine Mercy nor should they give credence to her messages.”  
  • Archbishop Jan Graubner of Olomouc, Czech Republic, warned that the consequences of messages can be 'devilish' and speculates that the person who writes the messages might be someone who 'is very clever and evil, someone who wants to harm the Church." Full text in Czech http://ow.ly/Hy32X
  • "On 13 December last, Bishop Anthony Fisher, of Parramatta, issued the following statement: “Many of you might have received email or other communications from a woman who goes by the name of ‘Maria Divine Mercy’.

    Supposedly, she is a seer in receipt of private revelations from the Holy Trinity, Our Lord and the Blessed Virgin Mary. She runs a website called ‘The Warning’, the subject matter of which relates to the end of the world and Christ’s Second Coming.

    “The messages and ‘revelations’ of Maria Divine Mercy contain theological positions that do not conform to the Catholic Church’s teachings, Scripture or Tradition. There are also historical errors. There is also a persistent animus towards various aspects of Church leadership, for example, the messages and ‘revelations’ regarding the supposedly illegitimate papal ministry of Pope Francis."

    “Maria Divine Mercy’s messages enjoy no ecclesiastical support or approval. The faithful should not take seriously the messages of Maria Divine Mercy. No support should be given to the dissemination of these messages or ‘revelations’ or associated material in the diocese of Parramatta.”  Source: The Catholic Weekly, Australia
  • Karl Keating, founder and President of the reputable organization, "Catholic Answers" says, "I have taken a look at the Maria Divine Mercy’s website, and it didn’t take but a minute to discover that this seer is fake and her messages contrary to the Church." He adds, "You need to back away from this spurious seer--and pronto." Read his opinion HERE: Catholic.com Blog
  • Dr. Mark Miravalle, Professor of Theology and Mariology at Franciscan University of Steubenville says, "Ironically, the alleged message predicts an upcoming schism in the Church. This could well become a self-fulfilling prophecy, a Satanic goal and strategy, which could result, in some part, from the following of extremely dangerous and materially schismatic messages such as those promulgated by 'Maria Divine Mercy.'" Read his full analysis of the messages HERE: New Advent Blog
  • Jimmy Akin, journalist for the National Catholic Register, says of Maria Divine Mercy, "[Maria Divine Mercy] is an anonymous, unapproved seer whose prophecies contain material that is both demonstrably false and contrary to Catholic teaching regarding the future. Furthermore, to adhere to her prophecies can result in the grave sin and canonical crime of schism." Read the rest of his opinion HERE: National Catholic Register
  • According to an article in the Irish magazine "Alive!", Catholic priest Father Owen Gorman writes why this cannot be an apparition from God. Scroll down (pdf) to page 10: Alive! Magazine, March 2012 OR click on the image of the article at the bottom of this posting and magnify to read it. Thank you to "Anonymous" commenter for finding this article.
  • Father John Hogan OCDS has written an article warning against these messages, "I would ask all Catholics to stay clear of this woman and her 'messages'.  For one thing we cannot establish her credentials.  When the Church examines the authenticity of any supernatural events or revelations she examines the alleged seers because their lives and integrity are part of the investigation." Read the rest of his article HERE: Ex Umbris Et Imaginibus Blog
  • Father John Corrigan of Ballarat, Australia warns about Maria Divine Mercy HERE and a second article HERE 
  • Father Angel Sotelo of the Diocese of Fresno states, "For the reasons listed...and not even counting the theological errors which are said to exist in her messages, they should in my opinion be dismissed and not given even the pious or human faith given to an approved private revelation." He outlines his full opinion HERE and a second part HERE.
  • According to the Eternal Word Television Network, "The judgment that an alleged apparition has been shown to be not supernatural means it is either clearly not miraculous or lacks sufficient signs of the miraculous. Private revelation, for example, which is doctrinally dangerous or which manifests hostility to lawful authority could not come from God. It could even be demonic, especially if there are extraordinary signs accompanying it. The devil gladly mingles truth and lie to deceive the faithful, dazzling them with signs and wonders to give credence to his message. His purpose is to separate them from the Church, either by getting them to believe things contrary to the deposit of the faith or to act contemptuously of Church authority. An attitude of pride and judgment toward the Church is a clear sign of his presence.
  • According to Richard Salbato of Unity Publishing, "A sure sign of a demonically-inspired seer is their seeking self-profit, glory and power over GOD's." On her website, "Maria" is selling volumes of the messages. The second volume is set to come out and they are presently taking pre-orders. There is no bishop approval on these writings. Where is the money going? Richard Salbato has an excellent article on discerning the spirits. This is a good, long checklist by which all supposed apparitions can be measured: Testing The Spirit
  • OTHER DISCUSSION:

  • Without the approval of the Holy See, the handlers of the Maria Divine Mercy messages held "Book of Truth Seminars" to, in their words, "give a broad overview of what the messages are telling us about the direction of our Church and our world. help the establishment of centres of prayer and distribution, with a view to an even more important role in difficult times ahead." They have done tours of Australia and the United States to spread their propaganda It appears the promoters are actively moving toward a SCHISM.
  • The compiled messages are claimed to be "The Book of Truth", an addition to the Book of Revelations in Sacred Scripture. This is patently false! Catholics are to follow the Magisterium of the church which has as its source the completed, sealed Gospel and Sacred Tradition. Sacred Tradition is Catholic doctrine based on prayerful discernment of the Gospel by the Pope, cardinals, and bishops throughout generations ever since the founding of the Holy Catholic Church by Jesus Christ Himself. It is heresy to claim a private revelation can add to or complete Sacred Scripture. Maria Divine Mercy and her followers often refer to her book of false messages called, "The Book of Truth" as his Sacred Words, the Word or Scripture. This is heresy!
  • In an audio interview from 2011, the seer claims to have seen God the Father, and says she was surprised to see there were three beings because she didn't know about the Blessed Trinity. How can this be, since nobody is allowed to be in the Beatific Vision (able to see God), unless their soul has been completely purified whether here on earth (a saint!) or through the fires of Purgatory. A person who isn't even aware of the basic doctrine of Trinity certainly has not yet achieved saint status and therefore can NOT see God.
  • "Maria Divine Mercy" says these messages are URGENT. If they are urgent, she'd be anxious for her local Bishop to approve them. In her radio interview she claims her bishop "dismissed" the messages. Should this be enough for her not to promote them as she does?
  • Before the election of Pope Francis in the valid Conclave of Cardinals, Maria Divine Mercy's messages referred to the next pope after Benedict as the coming "false prophet."  Before as well as after his election, he has also been also referred to as, "imposter," "false prophet,"  "evil" who infiltrated the church, the one who "stole the seat (sic)  of Peter,"  "abomination," and worse.  This is to cause Catholics to mistrust the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church, which is  a sure sign that Satan is in the works. Now that Pope Francis is our Holy Father, MDM followers on social media sites like Facebook are going out of their way to find twisted and skewed articles about his words from less-than-trustworthy news sources to try and "prove" he is the false prophet.  They have expressed a desire for his short pontificate and even for his death.  For a Catholic to actively and persistently reject an acting Pontiff is to violate the Code of Canon Law # 751 which leads to automatic excommunication.  An added note: Although the church has had her ups and downs, the Holy Catholic Church was instituted by Jesus Himself and He promised us, "The gates of hell shall not prevail against it!" The messages want people to break away from the Holy Catholic Church which is the fount of truth and light.
  • Here are actual Maria Divine Mercy messages from right after the election of Pope Francis in the valid Conclave of Cardinals.  3/13/13 "I have not appointed this person, who claims to come in My Name," 3/14/13 "...the imposter, who sits on the throne in My Church on earth, does not come from Me," "The time for the schism to be laid bare is close, and already, a terrible unease is being felt in Rome," 3/15/13, "You must pray for all those who run the Catholic Church. Please include the man who sits in the Chair of Peter...Pray that he will accept the Truth of the death of my Son on the Cross," (How insulting and brash that this message claims Pope Francis does not accept the death of Jesus!), "So infested are they, those who roam the corridors of Rome, that the biggest sign will be seen in the chaos, which will ensue, as they adhere to the command of the imposter," 3/19/13, "Masonic sects infiltrate the Church in Rome. Make no mistake – there can only be one pope in one lifetime, "...soon, all will see the subtle acts and the sly gestures of those false imposters who preside over My Throne in Rome, for they amount to sacrilege," 3/21/13 "The time for the division is soon and you must prepare." -~-All of these messages are encouraging a schism. The targets for these messages appear to be traditional Catholics . There have already been traditionalist schisms in past decades since Vatican II, and Satan seems to be encouraging another one. Adding fuel to the fire is the mainstream media that has written articles based on bad translations of his homilies, and exaggerated comments that he has made, for example, claiming that Pope Francis said atheists are "saved,"  which is a complete misunderstanding of what he actually said. (For those of you still curious, Pope Francis said that all mankind is REDEEMED, even atheists.  Redemption does not mean salvation. They are different words with different meanings. Jesus did redeem all of mankind when He suffered and died on the cross. However, it is up to each and every one of us to work toward salvation by following the ways of Christ.)
  • The Maria Divine Mercy messages are rife with doctrinal errors, Scritpural contradictions, self-contradictions, and simply stated, bad grammar.  An example of an error is the message on 3/22/13, the Friday before Holy Week, MDM followers were requested to fast all week, and END the fast at 3:30 on Good Friday, "My dearly beloved daughter, I desire that all of My followers conduct a time of fasting from next Monday until 15:30 hours (03:30 PM) on Good Friday." However, our faith teaches that we are required to fast all day on Good Friday!  Here, MDM has Catholics breaking their fast on the very day we commemorate and mourn Jesus's suffering and death! Satan is laughing.
  • Would a visionary have to retract or revise a message?  Thank you to a Miraculous Rosary Blog commenter who noticed this new MDM message retracting the previous fasting message, "please (sic) note that there was a typographical error in the message dated 22 March 2013 entitled 'I desire that all of My Followers conduct a time of fasting from next Monday until 15.30 hours on Good Friday' The last line should read 'If you do not wish to endure this suffering, I will grant you great blessings and ask that you continue with Me on My journey to awaken the world from its slumber and so I can lift the veil of deceit which covers it.' admin team" My blog commenter amusingly added, "I guess Jesus realized that he went too far this time."       I have seen MDM messages edited, changed, and even deleted.  In one example, I distinctly remember reading "jesus" telling his followers to "hoard" food.  Later, I went back to find that message to demonstrate why the messages are false, and the word "hoard" was gone.  No approved seer in history has made mistakes in grammar or semantics. How could he or she?  The messages come directly from heaven and are infused not only into the ears of the seer, but also the hearts and souls! 
  • On the website you can download a paper certificate called, "Seal of the Living God" which promises God's protection for your entire family from now up until Jesus comes again if you accept the seal by praying a particular prayer. The certificate was designed from a stock photo image of a seal by commercial artist who admits he had no divine inspiration when he created it.  On a social media site, he even admitted to getting paid for it!  God's divine plan for the salvation of mankind through His Son Jesus Christ was clearly laid out in the Gospels. There are no "new" revelations.  Second, it is explained quite clearly in the Catechism of the Catholic Church that the "Seal" being referred to in Sacred Scripture is the seal of our BAPTISM!  This is a seal that can't smear if it gets wet, blow away in the wind, or get lost on a messy desk. Once Catholics are baptised, our souls carry the indelible Seal of God forever. 
  • In her 2011 audio interview, she called 2011 the year of purification, and said that the chastisement would come in about a year. Right now it is February, 2013 and we haven't even had the "Warning" yet, which is supposed to come before the "Chastisement". This inaccuracy alone proves false the messages. Plus, Our Lord and Our Holy Mother have never, in any approved apparition, set a date for a future apocalyptic event.
  • Early in the messages, "Maria Divine Mercy" claims she was being awakened by God at 3 a.m. In her own words, she asked him not to wake her up at 3 anymore. Nobody who has the privilege of being in the presence of God, Jesus, or Mary would desire or even DARE to change heaven's schedule! Nor would he or she want to! 
  • Maria Divine Mercy states that she felt tired and drained after the apparitions.  The only ones who claim to feel "drained" are occult mediums after they perform "healings" or communications with the "spirit world."  
  • At the time of her apparitions, she says she was a lapsed Catholic, bordering on agnostic. She was a very busy career woman who had no time for God. In her words, a "high flyer." I understand that God can chose whoever He wants, but Jesus warned us that Satan will deceive even the elect. Many great saints lived in fear of being deceived by Satan. Bernadette Soubirous of Lourdes wasn't sure if the apparition of Mary was a deception, and she threw holy water at her to make sure! Satan appeared to other saints looking exactly like Jesus, and each had their own way of discerning the deception. If these holy people couldn't always tell the difference, then how in the world does a lapsed Catholic, agnostic, who wasn't even aware of the Holy Trinity "know" this is really Jesus speaking and not just Satan in disguise?
  • In the messages, there is a constant current of Jesus and Mary complaining about the messages not being believed by people. Did Mary complain when the Bishop of Lourdes didn't believe Bernadette? Did she complain when the Bishop of Fatima didn't believe Lucia, Jacinta, and Francisco? No. She encouraged their obedience to the church, even if it meant they weren't allowed to come out to the apparition sites during her planned visits. God is always in control.
2011 audio interview of "Maria Divine Mercy". Thank you to my sister-in-law for finding this: Radio Interview with "seer" Maria Divine Mercy

Update:  MDM's radio interview transcribed into writing; read while you listen


There are many references from approved seers throughout history about being cautious of anything that attempts to make Catholics turn away from the Catholic Church. For example, here are the words of the amazing seer Hildegard regarding the Minor Chastisement, "After the birth of Antichrist heretics will preach their false doctrines undisturbed, resulting in Christians having doubts about their holy Catholic faith...at that period when antichrist shall be born, there will be many wars and right order shall be destroyed on earth. Heresy will be rampant and the heretics will preach their errors openly without restraint. Even among Christians doubt and scepticism will be entertained concerning the beliefs of Catholicism."

Jesus warned us that in these days there would be numerous false prophets, some so clever as to deceive even the elect. One thing is certain, it doesn't hurt us to ignore private revelations altogether, and instead immerse ourselves in the truth of the Gospel and the rich teachings of the Church. If we follow the blueprint Jesus laid out for us before He ascended into heaven, we have no need of further "revelations".

We should try not to chase butterflies in the tangled forest while neglecting the beautiful ones we already have in our own gardens! And while you're there....Plant a rosary every day!  

Stop chasing apparitions and embrace the profundity of the mundane!



Article in March 2012 "Alive!" Magazine. Click on the photo and magnify on your computer to read.

Updates:

Important update, May 12, 2013: The MDM fake message writers saw the post above and put out a new message TODAY but dated May 10 that begins, "Those who have not been given My Holy Word, including those countries where I Am condemned, are the first souls I must reach out to. Through no fault of their own, they have been reared from birth to deny God, the Maker and Creator of all that is. I will strive to convert them through this Mission and promise that once they are shown the Truth, during The Warning, that they will be drawn into My Mercy quickly. I will never forsake those who have been deceived, through false doctrines, for they are helpless and are in need of My Love and Mercy." ~~~Here is their big mistake, and PROOF their messages are being written by PEOPLE trying to start a new schism church: THE LETTER FROM THE SLOVAKIAN BISHOPS IS DATED FROM NOVEMBER, 2012 - A FULL SIX MONTHS AGO! Why didn't the "message from jesus" come out back in November or December? Instead, their message "coincidentally" comes out on the third day after my May 9th update and other postings (on this blog and Facebook page "Maria Divine Mercy - True or False") that presented the Letter of Condemnation of the MDM movement by the Conference of Slovakian Bishops. RUN from this false movement! They are also trying to indoctrinate children with a youth group Facebook page. In addition, they are calling out for people in the U.S. to volunteer as leaders to start prayer groups in their areas. Please be aware to tell your parish priests and bishops to NOT allow this false movement to grow!


21 comments:

  1. TO ALL COMMENTERS: Since I have a limit on the number of comments I can publish, I will be very selective and will not allow MDM followers to promote the false messages here on my site. Sometimes it's a "judgement call" on my part, not always an easy task, but I shall do my best with the help of Jesus, Mary, and the good St. Joseph to whom this blog is dedicated. ~Lovey

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  2. great job Lovey, The Lord is with you!

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  3. Great job Lovey.
    Here's some more useful info - MDM failed prophesies. What more evidence do MDM followers need to open their eyes? The Bible says:
    “And if you say in your heart,’ How may we know the word which the Lord has not spoken?’ – when a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the word does not come to pass or come true, that is the word which the Lord has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously, you need not be afraid of him.” (Deuteronomy 18:21-22)

    E.g. The ‘Book of Truth’ was foretold in Message 12th Nov 2010: “Yes, the book is what was prophesied…It will take you three months. I want you to publish it around the world. It must be large, powerful and sought out by millions just like the Holy Bible.”
    More here: http://mariadivinemercytrueorfalse.blogspot.com/p/maria-divine-mercys-failed-prophecies.html -

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  4. Thank you MariaDivineMercyTrueOrFalse for that passage from Deut. It is dangerous business indeed to presume to talk with the voice of God. Unfortunately, many will continue to follow regardless.

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  5. The following is from Bl. John Paul II to Catholics who need a timely reminder to help them focus on the core issue here. M-dm claims to be the last great prophet and has refused obedience to the Church.

    “The HOLY SPIRIT . . . ENRICHES {the Church} still further WITH PARTICULAR GIFTS or PROMPTINGS OF GRACE, called CHARISMS . These can take a great variety of forms both as a manifestation of the absolute freedom of the Spirit who abundantly supplies them, and as a response to the varied needs of the Church in history. The description and the classification given to these gifts in the New Testament are an indication of their rich variety. “To each is given the manifestation of the Spirit for the common good. To one is given through the Spirit the utterance of wisdom, and to another the utterance of knowledge according to the same Spirit, to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healing by the one Spirit, to another the working of miracles, to another PROPHECY, to another THE ABILITY TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEN SPIRITS. . .”

    “The charisms are received in gratitude both on the part of the one who receives them, and also on the part of the entire Church. THEY ARE IN FACT A SINGULARLY RICH SOURCE OF GRACE for the vitality of the apostolate and for the holiness of the whole Body of Christ, PROVIDED THAT THEY BE GIFTS THAT COME TRULY FROM THE SPIRIT and are exercised in full conformity with the authentic promptings of the Spirit. In this sense THE DISCERNMENT OF CHARISMS IS ALWAYS NECESSARY. Indeed, the Synod Fathers have stated: “THE ACTION OF THE HOLY SPIRIT, WHO BREATHES WHERE HE WILLS, IS NOT ALWAYS EASILY RECOGNIZED and RECEIVED. We know that God acts in all Christians . . . Nevertheless, at the same time we are also aware of THE POWER OF SIN and HOW IT CAN DISTURB and CONFUSE THE LIFE OF THE FAITHFUL and OF THE COMMUNITY.”

    “FOR THIS REASON, NO CHARISM DISPENSES A PERSON FROM REFERENCE and SUBMISSION TO THE PASTORS OF THE CHURCH.”
    The Council clearly states: “JUDGEMENT AS TO THEIR [charisms'] GENUINENESS and PROPER USE BELONGS TO THOSE WHO PRESIDE OVER THE CHURCH, and to whose SPECIAL COMPETENCE IT BELONGS, NOT TO EXTINGUISH THE SPIRIT, but to TEST ALL THINGS and HOLD FAST TO WHAT IS GOOD” (1 Thes 5:12;19:21), so that all the charisms might work together, in their diversity and complementarity, for the common good. (John Paul II, Christifideles laici, 1988)

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  6. March 24, 2013 Jesus revealed to M-DM how Satan tormented Him during His Agony in the Garden. Apparently, Jesus saw the power Satan will enjoy despite His death on the Cross. One could argue that his power was greatly diminished, even crushed, after the Passion, Death and Resurrection of Jesus but we can put that aside for the time being. For now, let us focus on the following purported statement of this Jesus of M-DM.

    “SO POWERFUL IS SATAN THAT HE PLANTED DOUBTS IN MY MIND ABOUT BEING THE SON OF MAN.”

    Can anyone believe that Jesus ever lost sight of who He is? Does anyone believe the omnipotent Son of God was ever so powerless? The fact is, Jesus could never “doubt” His divinity. Jesus was tempted at the beginning and at the end of His public ministry but He never showed a moment of weakness before Satan and as the Son of Man was always in full control, never doubting Himself or His mission for a moment. When Jesus assumed human nature He never ceased to be LORD. This is the faith we have received.

    So what does Scripture teach about doubt? In this example from St. James, doubt is in the context of a weak faith. “HE WHO DOUBTS IS LIKE A WAVE OF THE SEA THAT IS DRIVEN and TOSSED BY THE WIND. For that person must not suppose that a double-minded man, unstable in all his ways, will receive anything from the Lord.” James1:6-8

    No good Catholic believes that Jesus was “a double-minded man, unstable in all his ways.” This preposterous statement by M-DM is an insult to the authentic Jesus who “is to be acknowledged in two natures {human and divine} without confusion, change, division or separation.” Council of Chalcedon in 451. Yet again we have someone who is disturbing the faithful with a “different gospel” than the one we received. This is mindless drivel which has no basis in Sacred Scripture and is one more good reason not to believe a word from this fictitious Jesus of M-DM.

    Followers of W2C, put your faith in the true light of Jesus Christ who preached out in the open and shun this Jesus who dwells in the shadows of anonymity.

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    1. are you saying you believe the power of Satan was diminished, even crushed, after the passion death and resurrection of Jesus???????? That has to be the most stupid thing I ever read. Look around, there is evil all around this world! Look at the media, look at abortion! Why do churches seem so empty, all over the world? Evil is winning the battle. How can anybody trust you for telling them not to believe MDM?

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    2. Reply to Anon. Aug.24 who was responding to my post dated July 15.

      Hopefully, this passage from Sacred Scripture will give you fresh insight.

      “SEE TO IT THAT NO ONE CAPTIVATE YOU WITH AN EMPTY, SEDUCTIVE PHILOSOPHY ACCORDING TO HUMAN TRADITION, ACCORDING TO THE ELEMENTAL POWERS OF THE WORLD and NOT ACCORDING TO CHRIST. FOR IN HIM DWELLS THE FULLNESS OF THE DEITY BODILY . . .WHO IS THE HEAD OF EVERY PRINCIPALITY and POWER.” Col. 2:8-10

      While the devil did tempt Jesus, it was only from the outside. He could never tempt Him interiorly which is certainly what would have happened had Satan been as powerful as M-DM postulated. According to St. John Chrysostom, Jesus became man WITHOUT CHANGE. In the words of St. Paul, “IN HIM DWELLS THE FULLNESS OF THE DEITY BODILY.” Unequivocally, Satan had no dominion over Jesus, not even for a moment. Go back and read the temptation of Jesus in the desert and see how promptly the devil was rebuffed. External temptations do not equal internal doubts. Are you prepared, Anon., to back up this claim that Jesus doubted He was the Son of Man? Little wonder you believe, “Evil is winning the battle.” Have you considered that to believe M-DM's version of the Passion is to wound the respect and trust we owe our Creator? Do you not think she is the one planting seeds of doubt about the power of Our Lord? Only Satan himself would brag about his supposed triumph over Jesus. Truth is, Jesus bound up the strong man and conquered him. Catholic iconography is replete with this image.

      “Tempting God consists in putting his goodness and almighty power to the test by word or deed. Thus Satan tried to induce Jesus to throw himself down from the Temple and, by this gesture, force God to act. Jesus opposed Satan with the word of God: "You shall not put the LORD your God to the test." The challenge contained in such tempting of God wounds the respect and trust we owe our Creator and Lord. It always harbors doubt about his love, his providence, and his power.” CCC #2119

      “The victory that Christ won over sin has given us greater blessings than those which sin had taken from us: ‘WHERE SIN INCREASED, GRACE ABOUNDED ALL THE MORE.’ (Rom 5:20).” CCC #420

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  7. “Many Christians ignore one of the most fundamental promises I made during My Crucifixion, where I WOULD BE PRESENT IN BREAD AND WINE and leave a permanent mark to help nourish souls.” Your Loving Savior, Jesus Christ to M-DM, Ap. 14, 2011. {emphasis added}

    Catechism #1376 “The Council of Trent summarizes the Catholic faith by declaring: "Because Christ our Redeemer said that it was truly his body that he was offering under the species of bread, it has always been the conviction of the Church of God, and this holy Council now declares again, that BY THE CONSECRATION OF THE BREAD AND WINE THERE TAKES PLACE A CHANGE OF THE WHOLE SUBSTANCE OF THE BREAD INTO THE SUBSTANCE OF THE BODY OF CHRIST OUR LORD and OF THE WHOLE SUBSTANCE OF THE WINE INTO THE SUBSTANCE OF HIS BLOOD. This change the holy Catholic Church has fittingly and properly called transubstantiation.”

    Frankly, it is astounding that this woman still has a following among good, faithful Catholics many of whom are daily communicants. It is interesting to note that in the wake of negative feedback, the administrative team at the Warning Second Coming website added the following footnote:

    “For clarification on the Doctrine of Transubstantiation please refer to the Message given on Friday, June 1, 2012 08:15 PM
    “When the antichrist devours all religions the only weapons which he will be powerless against is the Holy Mass and the Transubstantiation of the bread and wine into My Body and Blood, in the Holy Eucharist.”

    It is a noble thing to learn from one’s mistakes and to correct them but the problem still remains: it is attributed to Our Saviour who instituted this very sacrament. How pathetic that the faithful continue to sanction this Jesus as authentic. Therefore, Catholics who are still followers of this seer, need to give serious reflection just how they can reconcile the one true Messiah with this counterfeit Jesus. Open wide the door of your hearts to the Good Shepherd; shut it to thieves who come only to destroy.

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  8. “The victory that Christ won over sin has given us greater blessings than those which sin had taken from us: ‘WHERE SIN INCREASED, GRACE ABOUNDED ALL THE MORE.’ (Rom 5:20).” CCC #420

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  9. Reply to the question of Anon. Aug.24:
    “Are you saying you believe the power of Satan was diminished, even crushed, after the passion death and resurrection of Jesus?”
    In a word. Yes.
    “HE HAS DELIVERED US from the DOMINION of DARKNESS and TRANSFERRED US TO THE KINGDOM OF HIS BELOVED SON, in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.” Col.1:13-14

    Comment: The “dominion of darkness” of Satan was “diminished.” Take further note, we are not waiting the kingdom to begin after the Second Coming as M-DM thinks. The kingdom of God is already among us and has been for the last 2,000 years. It is the Church. This kingdom will be PERFECTED after the Second Coming, after the end of the world, after the Day of Judgement.

    Yes. This is the Good News. The victory of Christ on the Cross where His reign as King of Kings began. Was the death and resurrection of Jesus a triumph over the reign of the “prince of this world”? Yes. Was his skull crushed, figuratively speaking? Yes. Jesus accomplished His mission of redemption as promised in Genesis 3. God’s love and His grace is more powerful than the devil. We are trapped in the snares of the prince of darkness when we give him permission; if we co-operate with the works of darkness. Otherwise, we have died with Christ and our lives our hid with Him in God. (Col.3:3) Nothing and no one can remove us from the protection of the hand of God unless we first fall from a life of grace through deliberate sin. All means of salvation are available to us in the sacraments. In Christ, we find the well-spring of life giving graces that pour forth unto eternal life.

    “Even when you were dead in transgressions . . . He brought you to life along with Him, having forgiven us all our transgressions; OBLITERATING THE BOND AGAINST US, WITH ITS LEGAL CLAIMS, WHICH WAS OPPOSED TO US, HE ALSO REMOVED IT FROM OUR MIDST, NAILING IT TO THE CROSS; DESPOILING THE PRINCIPALITIES and THE POWERS, HE MADE A PUBLIC SPECTACLE OF THEM, LEADING THEM AWAY IN TRIUMPH BY IT.” Col. 2:13-15

    “NOW TO HIM WHO IS ABLE TO KEEP YOU FROM FALLING and TO PRESENT YOU WITHOUT BLEMISH BEFORE THE PRESENCE OF HIS GLORY with rejoicing, to the only God, our Savior through Jesus Christ our Lord, be glory, majesty, dominion, and authority, before all time and now and for ever. Amen.” Jude 24-25

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    1. I am no authority Anonymous. If I were my own authority, there would be no need to back up everything I say. Here is a quote from St. Augustine's "City of God."

      “Now the devil was thus bound not only when the Church began to be more and more widely extended among the nations beyond Judea, but is now and shall be bound till the end of the world, when he is to be loosed. Because even now men are, and doubtless, to the end of the world, shall be, converted to the faith from the unbelief in which he held them. And this strong one is bound in each instance in which he is spoiled of one of his goods . . .”

      This great saint and teacher wrote a lot about the correct understanding of the book of Revelation. He most emphatically states the Church shall not be seduced by Satan which is a major theme with MDM.
      I don't deny there is much evil in the world but we need to keep a proper perspective.

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    2. Reply to Anon. Aug.24 who posted: “Are you saying you believe the power of Satan was diminished, even crushed, after the passion death and resurrection of Jesus???????? That has to be the most stupid thing I ever read. Look around, there is evil all around this world! Look at the media, look at abortion! Why do churches seem so empty, all over the world? EVIL IS WINNING THE BATTLE. How can anybody trust you for telling them not to believe MDM?”

      Don’t trust me but do trust the Catechism of the Catholic Church which Bl. John Paul II wrote was the sure norm for teaching the faith when he approved its’ publication in 1992 by virtue of his Apostolic Authority. (For skeptics, double-check the scriptural references.)

      “The coming of God's kingdom means the defeat of Satan's: ‘If it is by the Spirit of God that I cast out demons, then THE KINGDOM OF GOD HAS COME UPON YOU.’ (Mt.12:26,28) Jesus' exorcisms free some individuals from the domination of demons. They anticipate Jesus' great victory over "the ruler of this world." (Jn.12:31) The kingdom of God will be definitively established through Christ's cross: ‘God reigned from the wood.’” (CCC #550)

      In other words, to say Satan's power was diminished is itself an understatement. He was defeated. Christ was victorious. What we are experiencing now is a mop up job like Hitler and his army endured after the invasion of the Allied forces during World War II. Defeat was inevitable yet he refused to surrender.

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  10. This letter from Bishop Fabbro of the London diocese is the first warning of a Canadian bishop against MDM. I heard rumors of it earlier but it was only today that I received a hard copy of it as it appeared in parish bulletins locally. It has not been officially posted on the diocesan website even though the excitement over this seer is not limited to the one small town mentioned in the message. A lay person, received an invitation to attend this meeting about Marie Divine Mercy which was slated for the feast day of the Assumption of Our Lady, August 15. Already familiar with her notoriety, she alerted a parish priest who then contacted his bishop. The meeting took place regardless, as it seems the notice came too late. The following is the bulletin insert:

    Message of Bishop Fabbro

    “Bishop Fabbro has been asked concerning a meeting about Maria Divine Mercy which is to take place at a house in Corunna on August 15, 2013.”

    “Maria of Divine Mercy is a woman who chooses to remain anonymous and has made claims of alleged privation revelations. Bishop Fabbro warns Catholics of the diocese that Maria of Divine Mercy has not received the Church’s approval. Indeed, Catholic bishops who have studied her teachings have declared that they are heretical and have forbidden priests to be involved with or cooperate in matters associated with Maria of Divine Mercy. Her prophecies contain material that is both false and contrary to Catholic teaching. The faithful should know that adhering to her teachings can result in grave sin.”

    “Bishop Fabbro warns Catholics that they should not be involved with Maria of Divine Mercy nor should they give credence to her messages.”

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  11. Fr. Lee Acervo, pastor in the Detroit diocese, has written a letter to his parishioners warning them against false apparitions. A couple of weeks ago, someone was distributing pamphlets promoting the Bayside apparitions without his permission. As many already know, MDM has lifted many ideas from this condemned source. He asked anyone who received one to throw it out. This incident motivated him to speak out. In the letter (published in the bulletin and online) he only alludes to MDM as other alleged apparitions of the Blessed Mother because he didn't want to attract further interest in her. Meanwhile,our pastor has been having such difficulty with MDMers that he copied it in his Sunday bulletin. Here is the link to Fr. Acervo's Corner. http://fatheracervo.com/2013/08/25/the-role-of-apparitions/

    I request prayers for this elderly pastor who is so heartbroken over this whole affair that he is sick with grief and thinking of taking his retirement. Repeatedly, he has addressed the problem with false prophets from the pulpits but they stubbornly refuse to listen. Doubtless, they will throw out his bulletin and refuse to read it.

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  12. Church Born From Side of Christ- The Nuptial Mystery

    To all followers of Marie Dvn Mrcy (who are being groomed to separate from the Catholic Church) remember that the Church Jesus established was not a temporary measure until the coming of His “last and greatest prophet” MDM or until He got so upset with it that He took back the keys of the kingdom. The Warning Second Coming website is a farce. Many of their ideas are permutations on the dispensationalist views made so popular in “The Late Great Planet Earth” and the “Left Behind” series. MDM’ers, you are behaving like the Israelites in the O.T. who sought aid, not from God but from pagans. (At least their enemies had faces.) Their punishment remains a lesson for all to remain faithful. It is analogous to adultery. You are leaving Christ, the Bridegroom, to hook up with an anonymous stranger.

    “For the salvation offered by God to men and women, the union with him to which they are called - in short, THE COVENANT took on, from the Old Testament Prophets onwards, the privileged form of a NUPTIAL MYSTERY: FOR GOD THE CHOSEN PEOPLE IS SEEN AS HIS ARDENTLY LOVED SPOUSE. Both Jewish and Christian tradition has discovered the depth of this intimacy of love by reading and rereading the Song of Songs; THE DIVINE BRIDEGROOM WILL REMAIN FAITHFUL even when THE BRIDE BETRAYS HIS LOVE, when Israel is unfaithful to God. When the “fullness of time” comes, the Word, THE SON OF GOD, TAKES ON FLESH IN ORDER TO ESTABLISH and SEAL THE NEW and ETERNAL COVENANT IN HIS BLOOD, which will be shed for many so that sins may be forgiven. His death will gather together again the scattered children of God: FROM HIS PIERCED SIDE WILL BE BORN THE CHURCH, AS EVE WAS BORN FROM ADAM’S SIDE. AT THAT TIME, THERE IS FULLY and ETERNALLY ACCOMPLISHED the nuptial mystery proclaimed and hymned in the Old Testament: CHRIST IS THE BRIDEGROOM; THE CHURCH IS HIS BRIDE, WHOM HE LOVES because HE HAS GAINED HER by HIS BLOOD and MADE HER GLORIOUS, HOLY and WITHOUT BLEMISH, and henceforth, HE is INSEPARABLE from HER.” Declaration on the Admission of Women to the Ministerial Priesthood, Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, 1976.

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  13. “The Gift of a life filled with great glory, wonderful surroundings, a perfect, beautiful body and the ability to feel a permanent love, which will overwhelm you, but will bring you immense happiness. This is Eternal Life and the time for Me to bring you over into My New Kingdom on Earth is close.” Jesus to MDM, Sept. 24, 2013

    The Church is the kingdom of God on earth. There is no Divine promise of a “new kingdom on Earth.”

    “‘Now after John was arrested, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of God, and saying: ‘'The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent, and believe in the gospel.’” (Mark 1:14-15) To carry out the will of the Father Christ inaugurated the kingdom of heaven on earth." (Lumen Gentium 3) Now the Father's will is ‘to raise up men to share in His own divine life.’ He does this by gathering men around His Son Jesus Christ. This gathering is the Church, ‘on earth the seed and beginning of that kingdom.’” (CCC#541)

    " above all in the great Paschal mystery - His death on the cross and His Resurrection - He would accomplish the coming of His kingdom. ‘And I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all men to Myself.’ (John 12:32; Jn.3:15) Into this union with Christ all men are called.” (CCC # 542)

    “In the New Testament, the word basileia can be translated by ‘kingship’ (abstract noun), ‘kingdom’ (concrete noun) or ‘reign’ (action noun). The Kingdom of God lies ahead of us. It is brought near in the Word incarnate, it is proclaimed throughout the whole Gospel, and it has come in Christ's death and Resurrection. THE KINGDOM of GOD HAS BEEN COMING SINCE THE LAST SUPPER and, IN THE EUCHARIST, IT IS IN OUR MIDST. The kingdom will come in glory when Christ hands it over to his Father. . .” (CCC #2816)

    Beware of false prophets promising a "new kingdom on Earth.” As for those "perfect, beautiful bodies" how can anyone still think MDM is not foretelling the end of the world? Is she not speaking about the glorified, resurrected bodies of the dead?

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  14. In the transcript from the the interview in 2011 Mary Carberry/MDM claims that she has seen God the Father and even gives a description. I have a lot of trouble with that because it directly contradicts the Gospels and the teaching of the Church. Note: mystics and prophets may have heard the voice of God the Father but is there a precedent of actually seeing Him? Even John the Baptist at the baptism of Jesus in the Jordan River only heard the voice of God the Father; he did not see Him.

    “Not that anyone has seen the Father except the one who is from God; He has seen the Father.” John 6:46

    “No one has ever seen God; the only Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has made Him known." (John 1:18) Because He "has seen the Father," Jesus Christ is the only one who knows Him and can reveal Him.” (catechism 151)


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  15. I blindly followed Maria Divine Mercy, after reading her messages, I would hear a person(s) cussing me, I would hear a J. W. who I once knew, saying her J.W. preaching that you have no.... which is a lie, I had issues with her messages, the contractions. I would think one thing Catholic, and I would her a voice countering my Catholic thinking.

    The messages torment you from Hell.

    I brought evil upon myself with these messages. By believing the Pope was evil, then going to church, and receiving communion, that is Mortal Sin.

    Maria Divine Mercy is causing Mortal Sin, am I correct?

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  16. I blindly followed Maria Divine Mercy, after reading her messages, I would hear a person(s) cussing me, I would hear a J. W. who I once knew, saying her J.W. preaching that you have no.... which is a lie, I had issues with her messages, the contractions. I would think one thing Catholic, and I would her a voice countering my Catholic thinking.

    The messages torment you from Hell.

    I brought evil upon myself with these messages. By believing the Pope was evil, then going to church, and receiving communion, that is Mortal Sin.

    Maria Divine Mercy is causing Mortal Sin, am I correct?

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